#cjchat Transcript 8-29-10 – Bringing in the freshmen!
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| August 28, 2010 | ||
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| 5:18 pm | Chronotope: | Hey #collegejourn – The first #cjchat of the Fall semester is this Sunday at 8 p.m. Our topic is Bringing in the freshmen! |
| 7:02 pm | TauhidChappell: | RT @Chronotope: Hey #collegejourn – The first #cjchat of the Fall semester is this Sunday at 8 p.m. Our topic is Bringing in the freshmen! |
| 7:55 pm | AramZS: | Hey #collegejourn – The first #cjchat of the Fall semester is this Sunday at 8 p.m. Our topic is Bringing in the freshmen! |
| August 29, 2010 | ||
| 7:55 pm | collegejourn: | Hey #collegejourn – The first #cjchat of the Fall semester is today at 8 p.m. Our topic is Bringing in the freshmen! |
| 9:17 pm | newzed: | RT @collegejourn: Hey #collegejourn – The first #cjchat of the Fall semester is today at 8 p.m. Our topic is Bringing in the freshmen! |
| 9:18 pm | saragregory: | RT @collegejourn: Hey #collegejourn – The first #cjchat of the Fall semester is today at 8 p.m. Our topic is Bringing in the freshmen! |
| 11:12 pm | Lenny_Neslin: | Nice! RT @collegejourn: Hey #collegejourn – The first #cjchat of the Fall semester is today at 8 p.m. Our topic is Bringing in the freshmen! |
| 11:21 pm | collegejourn: | Hey #collegejourn – The first #cjchat of the Fall semester is tonight at 8 p.m. Our topic is Bringing in the freshmen! |
| 11:45 pm | newzed: | Join me for a #cjchat TweetChat at:http://tweetchat.com/room/cjchat #cjchat |
| 11:54 pm | AramZS: | RT @newzed: Join me for a #cjchat TweetChat at:http://tweetchat.com/room/cjchat |
| August 30, 2010 | ||
| collegejourn: | Hello #collegejourn and welcome to the first #cjchat of the Fall semester and new school year. Our topic tonight is Bringing in the Freshmen | |
| 12:03 am | Chronotope: | Let’s introduce ourselves. Say who you are, what college you’re at and position you hold in your college media outlet. #cjchat#collegejourn |
| 12:05 am | saragregory: | Hey #cjchat. I’m Sara Gregory, a UNC senior and @dailytarheel’s community manager. |
| 12:05 am | newzed: | Good evening & welcome back all  i’m El Heller, managing editor @outlookpress, student paper @sunyrockland in Suffern, NY #cjchat |
| 12:06 am | AramZS: | Hey everyone, I’m Aram Zucker-Scharff @Chronotope and I am the community manager for @GMUStudentMedia (George Mason University) #cjchat |
| 12:07 am | Lenny_Neslin: | What’s up everyone? My name is Lenny Neslin, I’m managing editor for The Quinnipiac Chronicle. Worked under @AndrewVazzano last yr. #cjchat |
| 12:07 am | AramZS: | @TauhidChappell @Lenny_Neslin Hope you can join us for #cjchat tonight? |
| 12:08 am | AramZS: | @saragregory @newzed Welcome, glad to have you here tonight! #cjchat |
| 12:12 am | AramZS: | Q1: Recruiting Freshmen? Have you reached out to them over summer, how are you following up to bring them in? #cjchat |
| 12:14 am | TauhidChappell: | Crud! I’m late!! #cjchat |
| 12:14 am | Lenny_Neslin: | Don’t think we’ve reached out to anyone this summer. Our main source of recruiting is an involvement fair early on in the semester. #cjchat |
| 12:15 am | saragregory: | We send all freshmen a “welcome to UNC” issue in the summer. Follow up at Fall Fest (a school organization fair before class). Q1 #cjchat |
| 12:15 am | newzed: | Q1: staff attended orientation & spoke to students. we also went to the honors orientation. a bunch of talented students there. #cjchat |
| 12:15 am | AramZS: | @TauhidChappell @Lenny_Neslin Hi! Good to have you here! #cjchat |
| 12:15 am | TauhidChappell: | Q1: We had this thing called Gobblerfest which is a festival for everyone in the community.A lot of student clubs/local businesses– #cjchat |
| 12:16 am | saragregory: | Q1 We also have interest meetings the first few weeks of school and give tours of our office. #cjchat |
| 12:17 am | TauhidChappell: | Q1 reserve tables up and down this long street and try to recruit students/potential employees.We had a table up from 11 a.m.- 7 p.m #cjchat |
| 12:17 am | collegejourn: | Q1: Recruiting Freshmen? Have you reached out to them over summer, how are you following up to bring them in? #cjchat |
| 12:17 am | Lenny_Neslin: | @saragregory I like your idea of a welcome issue. What sort of stuff do you include in it? How long? Send PDF via email? #cjchat |
| 12:17 am | AramZS: | @Lenny_Neslin We’ve reached a lot of freshmen during Mason’s orientation sessions. A lot of people signed up at least #cjchat |
| 12:17 am | TauhidChappell: | Q1: Also using Facebook/Twitter to reach out and get freshmen interested. #cjchat |
| 12:18 am | AramZS: | @saragregory I like that idea, office tours sounds like a good way to pull interested people in. #cjchat |
| 12:18 am | newzed: | Q1: we will also continue to invite students to our club meetings so can see who we are. #cjchat |
| 12:19 am | Lenny_Neslin: | @AramZS Good stuff. Definitely something to think about implementing for next year. #cjchat |
| 12:19 am | TauhidChappell: | Belated intro: I’m Tauhid Chappell and I’m the Executive Editor for Planet @blacksburg, a student run media org at Virginia Tech #cjchat |
| 12:20 am | saragregory: | @Lenny_Neslin Our summer staff puts it out just like the usual paper. Articles like “best places to study” etc. that gets mailed. #cjchat |
| 12:21 am | AramZS: | RT @Lenny_Neslin: @saragregory I like your idea of a welcome issue. Send PDF via email? [You could post it and send us the link ] #cjchat |
| 12:21 am | AramZS: | @saragregory Is there a lot of re-printable evergreen content in your welcome issue? #cjchat |
| 12:21 am | Lenny_Neslin: | @saragregory Having a summer staff would be nice. Ha. Our best bet would be to get together some time over the summer and design it. #cjchat |
| 12:22 am | saragregory: | @AramZS @Lenny_Neslin Can’t find a PDF online and not in the office now. I could e-mail it to you if you DM me your addresses. #cjchat |
| 12:23 am | AramZS: | @Lenny_Neslin I know that our paper has folks come in a week early to work on the first issue. Perhaps that’s an option? #cjchat |
| 12:24 am | Chronotope: | @saragregory Very cool. Do you do any demoing of tech or procedure or just walk them around the office? #cjchat |
| 12:24 am | TauhidChappell: | @saragregory I really like the @dailytarheel’s web design! #cjchat |
| 12:25 am | Lenny_Neslin: | FYI: My paper’s website is www.quchronicle.com We’re on Facebook and Twitter too. #cjchat |
| 12:26 am | newzed: | here is a “Freshman Survival Guide” from the @dailyemerald(PDF & Online) #cjchat |
| 12:26 am | Shishev: | RT @TauhidChappell #cjchat http://bit.ly/9E6jDz |
| 12:28 am | AramZS: | @Lenny_Neslin Great website. I see you use Issuu, was it easy to set up? #cjchat |
| 12:28 am | AramZS: | @newzed I think you left off the link. #cjchat |
| 12:29 am | AramZS: | By the way, if you have a question you’d like us to discuss just @ reply me. #collegejourn #cjchat |
| 12:29 am | newzed: | woops, here is the link folks:http://www.dailyemerald.com/magazine #cjchat |
| 12:30 am | AramZS: | @saragregory So you mail the issue to all the freshmen’s homes? Isn’t that expensive? #cjchat |
| 12:30 am | Lenny_Neslin: | @AramZS Very easy to instal. Issuu is a great sidebar widget for newspaper websites. It tracks views for you, I think. #cjchat |
| 12:31 am | Lenny_Neslin: | Great, great newspaper website. Powered by MTV?? RT @newzed: woops, here is the link folks:http://www.dailyemerald.com/magazine #cjchat |
| 12:31 am | AramZS: | RT @newzed: woops, here is the link folks:http://www.dailyemerald.com/magazine [Daily Emerald's freshmen guide. Nifty.] #cjchat |
| 12:32 am | saragregory: | @AramZS I’m not sure the cost to mail it, but it’s well-supported with advertising. #cjchat |
| 12:32 am | newzed: | @Lenny_Neslin yes, it’s running on @collegepublish #cjchat |
| 12:34 am | AramZS: | Ok. Moving on to Q2 now, though feel free to continue discussion on Q1 as well. #cjchat |
| 12:36 am | AramZS: | Q2: The incoming class is more mobile + social media savvy then ever. How are you reaching out to them via new media? #cjchat#collegejourn |
| 12:36 am | collegejourn: | Q2: The incoming class is more mobile + social media savvy then ever. How are you reaching out to them via new media? #cjchat#collegejourn |
| 12:37 am | newzed: | re: issuu, be sure to check out their “shelf” feature. great for archives. (sample: http://www.outlookpress.org/2.10751) #cjchat |
| 12:37 am | TauhidChappell: | Q2: Facebook primarily.A lot of #hokies are on facebook, but not many are on Twitter. Hoping to introduce Twitter to our new members #cjchat |
| 12:37 am | AramZS: | @AndrewVazzano @Lenny_Neslin Good to know. We’ve been using a custom program, but I’ll have to look into switching. Thanks. #cjchat |
| 12:38 am | TauhidChappell: | Once we introduce Twitter…Will have to teach how to tweet efficiently and effectively as a journalist. That’ll be fun #Ithink#cjchat |
| 12:38 am | newzed: | @AndrewVazzano not sure if any one responded, we are @OutlookPress #cjchat |
| 12:40 am | newzed: | Q2: it’s facebook for us. twitter hasn’t taken off yet in our school (or so it seems) #cjchat |
| 12:40 am | AramZS: | We’ve been looking into using QR/Barcodes in our posters and ads. We want mobile-ready links to sites and specific content. #cjchat |
| 12:41 am | TauhidChappell: | RT @collegejourn: Q2: The incoming class is more mobile + social media savvy then ever. How are you reaching out to them via new media? #cjchat #collegejourn |
| 12:41 am | saragregory: | Q2 We reach out via @dailytarheel, Facebook mainly. Have been active on the UNC class of 2014 Facebook page and other UNC groups. #cjchat |
| 12:42 am | AramZS: | @AndrewVazzano Not sure, but still a decent number are on CP. Just look at the Pacemakers – http://bit.ly/a1w9uj #cjchat |
| 12:43 am | AramZS: | @saragregory Interesting. Most of our activity is on our own page, not inside their groups. Have you had a good response? #cjchat |
| 12:44 am | saragregory: | @newzed @TauhidChappell I find the majority of UNC students who have Twitter protect their accounts. Facebook still dominates. #cjchat |
| 12:45 am | AramZS: | @AndrewVazzano I concur. I think that the #collegejourn scene is slowly but surely moving away from CP because of that. #cjchat |
| 12:45 am | newzed: | @AramZS @AndrewVazzano CP has become more aggressive in showcasing customization. see recent blog posthttp://bit.ly/bjYIWM #cjchat |
| 12:46 am | AramZS: | @saragregory We have a growing number of Twitter users [see: @GMUStudentMedia/ultimate-gmu-list ] that we try to keep up with. #cjchat |
| 12:46 am | AramZS: | @newzed I expect they have to be. The field has quickly gone from no competition to a lot of competition. #cjchat |
| 12:47 am | Amadeus3000: | @AramZS We’re talking about QR codes now, too. Put them on the front page. Scan and read the “paper” on your phone. #cjchat |
| 12:48 am | newzed: | @AramZS @AndrewVazzano sorry, this is the link i wantedhttp://bit.ly/9xQf2y interesting post visualizing top sites on CP #cjchat |
| 12:48 am | saragregory: | @AramZS I’d say decent. I also try to tag UNC pages when I post a link to an article on our page that involves their group. #cjchat |
| 12:49 am | Amadeus3000: | Anthony Capps. An editor at the Iowa State Daily. Also trying to pay attention to the Emmys. #cjchat |
| 12:52 am | AramZS: | @newzed Huh. If there’s a lack of inspiration, someone should put together list of good looking #collegejourn sites for reference #cjchat |
| 12:52 am | AramZS: | @Amadeus3000 Welcome! I honestly forgot all about the Emmys >.< #cjchat |
| 12:53 am | TauhidChappell: | @AramZS I like that idea! #cjchat |
| 12:54 am | AramZS: | @Amadeus3000 We’ve been looking at that as well.http://www.stickybits.com/ looks like it might have some potential also. #cjchat |
| 12:55 am | AramZS: | @AndrewVazzano Really? That’s unpleasant sounding. Most of the people I’ve talked to have had a smooth transition out of CP. #cjchat |
| 12:56 am | AramZS: | Tip: If you want to use QR codes, you can get the small 100×100 kind here – http://createqrcode.appspot.com/ #cjchat |
| 12:57 am | newzed: | @AramZS @TauhidChappell you can start herehttp://www.collegemediainnovation.org/blog/ &http://collegemediamatters.com/ #cjchat |
| 12:57 am | AramZS: | I’d love to use StickyBits to create commenting areas and virtual mini-tours on objects around campus. The app is still a lil rough #cjchat |
| 12:57 am | Lenny_Neslin: | Loving this idea. RT @AramZS: Tip: If you want to use QR codes, you can get the small 100×100 kind here –http://bit.ly/amxbru #cjchat |
| 12:57 am | Amadeus3000: | @collegejourn Q1 Reference: We have a Daily Directoryhttp://bit.ly/9qjdPk … then a Welcome Back editionhttp://bit.ly/bTyJPd #cjchat |
| 12:59 am | AramZS: | @newzed We should really put together a list of them, all in one place, with screenshots and thumbnails. Something more accessible. #cjchat |
| 12:59 am | AramZS: | @Lenny_Neslin We’ve been putting them in posters around campus. Some link to the site, others to specific articles. #cjchat |
| 1:00 am | collegejourn: | Q3: What positions do you make available to Freshmen in your #collegejourn outlet? Where do you recommend they go? #cjchat |
| 1:00 am | AramZS: | Q3: What positions do you make available to Freshmen in your #collegejourn outlet? Where do you recommend they go? #cjchat |
| 1:00 am | AramZS: | @AndrewVazzano I can imagine #cjchat |
| 1:00 am | newzed: | @AramZS sure, we can do it together #cjchat |
| 1:01 am | AramZS: | @newzed Sounds good to me #cjchat |
| 1:01 am | tgounley: | Hey, #cjchat. Thomas Gounley, Executive Editor of @thenewhampshire. |
| 1:02 am | saragregory: | Q3 Freshmen work one day a week for us their first semester. Usually aren’t hired as editors until after second semester. #cjchat |
| 1:02 am | AramZS: | We actually had an incoming freshmen who lived locally come in over the summer interested in writing right away. #cjchat |
| 1:02 am | AramZS: | But enthusiasm may not = reliability or quality. How do you work with that? #cjchat |
| 1:03 am | newzed: | Q3: start of as contributing writers, after set amount of articles become staff, then are offered promotion as appropriate. #cjchat |
| 1:03 am | tgounley: | Q1 Come back few days early and put together an issue for freshmen. “Freshman 15″ theme this year- 15 articles about surviving UNH #cjchat |
| 1:03 am | AramZS: | RT @andrewvazzano: Oh, people, if you know any out of work journalism graduates (possible in CT), let them know we’re hiring and to contact me. #cjchat |
| 1:04 am | AramZS: | @tgounley Welcome! #cjchat |
| 1:04 am | Amadeus3000: | @AramZS We discussed how to use QRs in special sections (specially our bar guide). Use the codes as another online refer. #cjchat |
| 1:04 am | saragregory: | Q3 They also must attend a certain number of weekly seminars led by our adviser. Basic writing, reporting, newsroom advice. #cjchat |
| 1:04 am | Lenny_Neslin: | Same RT @newzed: Q3: start of as contributing writers, after set amount of articles become staff, then are offered promotion (maybe) #cjchat |
| 1:04 am | saragregory: | That’s all new as of last year, and really helped us retain freshmen! They got lots of one-on-one help and didn’t feel so lost. #cjchat |
| 1:05 am | tgounley: | Q3 #cjchat Most everyone starts as contributing writers. Good ones become staff writers, eds eventually. Different for design, photogs. |
| 1:06 am | AramZS: | @saragregory That’s good. Do you know about how much time ended up going into the freshmen help sessions? #cjchat |
| 1:06 am | saragregory: | @AramZS We let local incoming freshmen work over the summer. They get a lot of hand-holding until we see what they’re capable of. #cjchat |
| 1:07 am | Amadeus3000: | Q3: Get the programmers / developers / web geeks. However, few organizations have the money those people can earn elsewhere… #cjchat |
| 1:07 am | tgounley: | Q3 #cjchat Looking to offer a little more one-on-one guidance between eds and freshmen writers this year. Often aren’t in journo classes. |
| 1:07 am | AramZS: | Do you have any specific projects for freshmen? #cjchat |
| 1:07 am | TauhidChappell: | Q3: (part/full-time)Photographers,writers,editors,reporters,videographers. We have established officer positions for the time being.#cjchat |
| 1:08 am | AramZS: | @Amadeus3000 I’ve encountered a bunch, but many don’t come in thinking that a media outlet is something that would interest them #cjchat |
| 1:09 am | AramZS: | @Amadeus3000 What can you say to appeal to the more technically-able freshmen to get them on board? #cjchat |
| 1:09 am | newzed: | @tgounley same here, many students join as a way to be involved. don’t necessarily want to study journalism. #cjchat |
| 1:09 am | saragregory: | @AramZS There were 7 hour-long sessions a semester last year. Our adviser usually offered 2 time slots, so 14 hours + planning time. #cjchat |
| 1:11 am | AramZS: | @saragregory Intense. Freshmen sat through the whole 7 hours or was it split up among individual time with multiple people? #cjchat |
| 1:11 am | tgounley: | @newzed Yeah. Plus, typical journalism student still doesn’t take basic newswriting class until 3rd semester. So ability varies. #cjchat |
| 1:11 am | newzed: | @AramZS @saragregory i guess at a larger paper that’s possible. at our community college that would never happen. #cjchat |
| 1:11 am | Amadeus3000: | New freshmen reporters are just like any reporter. Must go through training. Attend section meetings. Produce content like others. #cjchat |
| 1:11 am | saragregory: | @AramZS Sorry, that was seven sessions of one hour each. They had to attend four. Different speakers, topics each time. #cjchat |
| 1:12 am | AramZS: | @newzed @tgounley Definitely important to train them all the same. Do you need different approaches for j-students/non-j-students? #cjchat |
| 1:13 am | Lenny_Neslin: | We’ve had P.T. majors join our paper. Our sports section is by far our largest section (by people) despite our sub-par sports teams. #cjchat |
| 1:14 am | AramZS: | @Lenny_Neslin People get really intense about their sports teams, whatever their quality . #cjchat |
| 1:15 am | Amadeus3000: | @AramZS Offer the possible developers a vision. Here’s our ambitions – mobile, apps, post-web. You can create it. Leave a legacy. #cjchat |
| 1:15 am | TauhidChappell: | I like the idea of holding training sessions separate from a general meeting. Problem is scheduling these sessions. #cjchat |
| 1:15 am | AramZS: | RT @Amadeus3000: @AramZS Offer the possible developers a vision. Here’s our ambitions – mobile, apps, post-web. You can create it. Leave a legacy. #cjchat |
| 1:16 am | Lenny_Neslin: | @AramZS Very true. I was the sports editor last year and I didn’t know what to say to other editors about retaining my large group. #cjchat |
| 1:17 am | Lenny_Neslin: | @TauhidChappell Last year I led a sportswriters workshop – obviously a lot easier to schedule with smaller groups. Do that maybe? #cjchat |
| 1:20 am | AramZS: | @Lenny_Neslin @TauhidChappell We also ran section-internal training at one point. Still hard to schedule. :/ #cjchat |
| 1:21 am | Amadeus3000: | @Lenny_Neslin When an editor hits 8 reporters I think they’ve maxed out. When they reach 9, time to find a second editor. #cjchat |
| 1:21 am | TauhidChappell: | @Lenny_Neslin Good idea. I’ll be looking at my officers to lead their teams and train whoever needs it. #cjchat |
| 1:21 am | Lenny_Neslin: | @AramZS @TauhidChappell Best way to get around that? Throw free food at them. Pizza works like a charm! #cjchat |
| 1:22 am | AramZS: | @Amadeus3000 Good to know. Have you had 3 or more editors in a section? Is it difficult to coordinate them? #cjchat |
| 1:22 am | Lenny_Neslin: | @Amadeus3000 I experienced this last year. Had 10+ kids turn out for each meeting. I took it on alone for a while, but it was a lot. #cjchat |
| 1:23 am | AramZS: | Question 4 in three minutes. Is there something you want to ask the group? @ reply me to have your question included. #cjchat |
| 1:25 am | williampd: | Is #cjchat still going on? William P. Davis, former editor of @TheMaineCampus and online editor of @BangorDailyNews |
| 1:25 am | AramZS: | @Lenny_Neslin Ah, Pizza, the ultimate college recruitment tool  #cjchat |
| 1:25 am | AramZS: | @williampd Yes and Welcome! We go until 10. #cjchat |
| 1:26 am | Lenny_Neslin: | @AramZS Question idea: How often do you put out your paper? Include your staff’s total size. #cjchat |
| 1:26 am | AramZS: | Q4: Training staff, new and old. Obviously a big issue. What are your favorite training materials and techniques? #collegejourn#cjchat |
| 1:26 am | collegejourn: | Q4: Training staff, new and old. Obviously a big issue. What are your favorite training materials and techniques? #collegejourn#cjchat |
| 1:28 am | Lenny_Neslin: | Biggest problem school newspapers have are writers not hitting deadlines. Solution: Great communication. Get cells, IM, email, etc. #cjchat |
| 1:29 am | williampd: | @AramZS Oh goody. I’ve never actually joined in. #cjchat |
| 1:30 am | AramZS: | @Lenny_Neslin Have you seen one communications method keep them on task better than others? #cjchat |
| 1:30 am | AramZS: | @williampd Well, glad to have you this time. Hopefully you’ll make it to future chats as well. #cjchat |
| 1:31 am | newzed: | @williampd hey, do you know what’s running mainecampus.com? #cjchat |
| 1:31 am | Lenny_Neslin: | @AramZS Q4: Pop quizzes at general staff meetings. We also come back to school a weekish early for training sessions each semester. #cjchat |
| 1:32 am | williampd: | #cjchat Q4: I made a custom test for training copy editors, etc. Materials should be custom to cover problems that differ paper-to-paper. |
| 1:32 am | Amadeus3000: | @AramZS The news reporters are divided among 4 assistant news editors. They’re overseen by the news editor, who’s big picture-minded #cjchat |
| 1:32 am | AramZS: | @newzed Interesting WP skin they have there. #cjchat |
| 1:33 am | Lenny_Neslin: | @AramZS Cell phone #s by far. AIM second. Last year I texted my writers for in-game updates. I texted them deadlines. #cjchat |
| 1:33 am | TauhidChappell: | RT @collegejourn: Q4: Training staff, new and old. Obviously a big issue. What are your favorite training materials and techniques? #collegejourn #cjchat |
| 1:33 am | williampd: | @newzed Don’t remember the name at the second, but I can get it for you later. Why? #cjchat |
| 1:33 am | AramZS: | @williampd @Lenny_Neslin – Interesting. We have copy tests also, but not for contributers. I’d love to see some examples? #cjchat |
| 1:34 am | AramZS: | @Lenny_Neslin Nifty. We don’t see a lot of AIM users at Mason anymore. Mostly Facebook chat now. #cjchat |
| 1:35 am | Lenny_Neslin: | @williampd I like the idea of creating tests for copy editors-in-training. I’m on it! @QUChronicle #cjchat |
| 1:36 am | AramZS: | @Lenny_Neslin Yeah. Years ago we had a problem with the quality of copy editors’ work, that was when we put together the test. #cjchat |
| 1:36 am | AramZS: | Curiosity: How many of you have in-house style guides? #cjchat |
| 1:36 am | newzed: | @williampd reminds me somewhat of http://www.idsnews.com & nyt. just curious. #cjchat |
| 1:36 am | williampd: | @AramZS Test includes grammar, style and university-specific knowledge. Part of it’s at http://bit.ly/baznsA #cjchat |
| 1:37 am | TauhidChappell: | @Lenny_Neslin Good idea. Keeps them coming back to meetings for one thing! #cjchat |
| 1:39 am | williampd: | @Lenny_Neslin I gave it to all the assignment editors, as well. Really gave me a good idea of where our editing weaknesses were. #cjchat |
| 1:41 am | Amadeus3000: | @AramZS Our in-house style guide has about 300 entries. #cjchat |
| 1:41 am | AramZS: | @newzed @newzed Yeah, it looks like that was what they were going for. They’ve done a pretty good job of it too. Wonder what theme. #cjchat |
| 1:41 am | AramZS: | Q5 arrives in 4 minutes. #cjchat |
| 1:42 am | riocarmine: | #cjchat Mario Moretto, former news editor for @themainecampus, current copy editor for Kennebec journal @kj_online |
| 1:43 am | AramZS: | @riocarmine Welcome! Glad to have you here! #cjchat |
| 1:44 am | Lenny_Neslin: | @riocarmine Glad to see some college newspaper grads are getting jobs. How’s the real world? #cjchat #journalism |
| 1:44 am | williampd: | @riocarmine Heyyyyoooooo! #cjchat |
| 1:44 am | AramZS: | @Amadeus3000 Mostly stuff relevant directly to your university or specific style choices that are applied generally? #cjchat |
| 1:44 am | Amadeus3000: | @williampd @AramZS We’ve considered a grammar/university quiz for everyone in the application process. #cjchat |
| 1:44 am | AramZS: | @Amadeus3000 What about freshmen who may not know as much about the university yet? #cjchat |
| 1:45 am | collegejourn: | Q5 (via @Lenny_Neslin ) – How often do you put out your paper? Include your staff’s total size. #cjchat #collegejourn |
| 1:45 am | AramZS: | Q5 (via @Lenny_Neslin ) – How often do you put out your paper? Include your staff’s total size. #cjchat #collegejourn |
| 1:46 am | williampd: | @Amadeus3000 @AramZS Tests are important for finding faults, but don’t let them dominate. Look for promise, as well. #cjchat |
| 1:47 am | newzed: | Q5: our paper comes out every two weeks (don’t laugh, it used to be monthly). our staff size varies. #cjchat |
| 1:48 am | AramZS: | Broadside, @GMUStudentMedia ’s print paper, is released every Monday during the school year. #cjchat |
| 1:48 am | Lenny_Neslin: | @newzed Please ballpark it for us (me). I’m very curious. #cjchat |
| 1:49 am | riocarmine: | Q5: Our paper was twice-weekly, with a senior editor staff of about 10, plus a couple dozen or so hourly staff and freelancers. #cjchat |
| 1:49 am | williampd: | #cjchat Q5: @TheMaineCampus puts out twice a week. EIC, 8 editors, 2 asst. editors, 6 copy editors, 3 designers, varying writing staff + biz |
| 1:50 am | Amadeus3000: | @AramZS Half and half. The guide is kept online so it changes regularly. Mostly clarification if someone sees various options #cjchat |
| 1:51 am | riocarmine: | #cjchat Q5: What @williampd said. |
| 1:51 am | AramZS: | Broadside has about 17-20 senior staff, 4 copy editors, 2 designers and an extremely variable set of contributers. #cjchat |
| 1:51 am | Lenny_Neslin: | @williampd We’re a little smaller than you, but we go weekly. What days do you put out? We go Wednesday. #cjchat |
| 1:52 am | saragregory: | Q5 We’re daily Monday-Friday, with an EIC, managing editor, about 40 paid editors and 150 or so volunteer staffers #cjchat |
| 1:52 am | AramZS: | @Amadeus3000 Good call with that. Our style guide is still print and bound. On what platform do you maintain your guide? #cjchat |
| 1:53 am | newzed: | @saragregory okay, things are starting make sense here… #cjchat |
| 1:54 am | AramZS: | @saragregory *jealous* #cjchat |
| 1:55 am | AramZS: | @Lenny_Neslin I always wonder if it might be wiser to go out mid-week. W/a Mon paper we have trouble covering weekend events. #cjchat |
| 1:55 am | newzed: | @saragregory how many work on the design? #cjchat |
| 1:56 am | Lenny_Neslin: | I think we need a separate chat for rich, giant school papers like @saragregory’s. #justkidding #cjchat |
| 1:57 am | Lenny_Neslin: | @AramZS Mid-week is nice. Weekends are free for designing, but so many events need to be covered and aren’t newsworthy a week later. #cjchat |
| 1:57 am | AramZS: | @Lenny_Neslin  – It’s also a matter of ad support. Bringing in money = more paper and staff. #cjchat |
| 1:58 am | saragregory: | @newzed There are typically three or four design editors, maybe 10ish staffers. @kellymchugh would know for sure. #cjchat |
| 1:59 am | saragregory: | @newzed @Lenny_Neslin Staff retention, getting folks excited, keeping them excited, etc… still a struggle for larger papers too. #cjchat |
| 1:59 am | AramZS: | Wrapping up: Please come by again this time next week for the next #collegejourn chat. Submit topic ideas for next week to me via @ #cjchat |
| 2:00 am | TauhidChappell: | Q5: No paper! Strictily online #cjchat |
| 2:00 am | AramZS: | I’ll also be putting up an archive of this chat at collegejourn.com, which I’m hoping to update (as a site) soon. #cjchat |
| 2:01 am | newzed: | TIP: i post relevant links throughout the week w/ the tag #collegejourn #cjchat |
| 2:01 am | Amadeus3000: | Q5 Mon-Fri paper. EIC, 2 MEs 22 editors, 40+ reporters. 20 in copy/design. 16 ad reps. 4 online dev. 12 in ad creation. All pay. #cjchat |
| 2:01 am | AramZS: | And finally, if you are not already on the list athttp://twitter.com/Chronotope/collegejourn – tell me so I can put you on. #cjchat |
| 2:01 am | saragregory: | RT @newzed: TIP: i post relevant links throughout the week w/ the tag #collegejourn #cjchat |
| 2:01 am | TauhidChappell: | @AramZS Another great #cjchat! Glad it’s back! |
| 2:01 am | newzed: | thanks for chatting, good night #cjchat |
| 2:02 am | riocarmine: | To all my non-newsy twitter friends: Sorry for the #cjchat clutter. |
| 2:03 am | AramZS: | @riocarmine I actually set up a separate account for chat because of that problem. My main account is @Chronotope #cjchat |
| 2:03 am | williampd: | @Lenny_Neslin Mondays and Thursdays. #cjchat |
| 2:03 am | AramZS: | RT @saragregory: RT @newzed: TIP: i post relevant links throughout the week w/ the tag #collegejourn #cjchat |
| 2:03 am | williampd: | FYI, all our editors are salaried, copy editors and designers are hourly, writers are paid by the article. #cjchat |
| 2:04 am | Lenny_Neslin: | Madness, but awesomeness. RT @Amadeus3000: Q5 Mon-Fri paper. EIC, 2 MEs 22 editors, 40+ reporters. 20 in copy/design… All pay. #cjchat |
| 2:04 am | AramZS: | Thank you to everyone who made it tonight! I hope to chat with you soon. Good night and good luck with your new year/classes. #cjchat |
| 2:08 am | Lenny_Neslin: | Just printed out @williampd’s copy editing test.http://bit.ly/bBb4o5 Great chat, I’ll be back next week! #cjchat |
| 2:11 am | Lenny_Neslin: | @saragregory Gotta make it fun! I definitely suggest social outings (dinner, sporting event) for newspaper staff/e-board #cjchat |
